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feuille ([personal profile] feuille) wrote2010-04-15 09:03 am

The inhibiting fear of Mary Sues

So there are these books.

One cover has a woman on it. She's young and thin; though her face is mostly in shadow she's definitely hot; she is wearing tight, leather clothes, her hair is artfully tangled and blowing in an invisible wind and she has a sword over her shoulder that's over half her height in lenghth. *

One cover has a woman on it. She's lean and curvy; though her face is mostly in shadow she's definitely hot; she's got a gorgeous red gown and red hair, both sweeping in an invisible wind. Her chest is not prominent, but definitely noticeable. She's got a bow with an arrow notched. **

One back reads: In a world where people born with an exceptional skill...are both feared and exploited, Katsa carries the burden...of the Grace of Killing. *

One back reads: Fire's exceptional beauty gives her influence and power. People who are susceptible to it will do anything for her attention, and for her affection. **

In one book the main character, a teenage girl, has one blue eye and one green eye, is monstrously good at killing people, hates her long hair and wants to cut it all off, despises wearing dresses and girly things and has serious anger management issues. This is Katsa. *

In one book the main character, a teenage girl, has stunning red, orange and pink-hued hair, is very good at archery, is so supernaturally hot she transfixes herself when she looks in mirrors, is a fantastic fiddle player and can read and control people's minds. This is Fire. **

I saw both of these in bookshops time and again. I picked them up, handled them, read their backs and examined their covers and sometimes even flicked through. Every time I put them down, hurriedly, thinking to myself:

Oh, I wouldn't want to read that. The main character looks like a total Mary Sue.

It took repeated good reviews and word of mouth for [personal profile] miss_haitch to take the "plunge", the "risk", and read one. Then the other. It took those repeated good reviews, word of mouth, and her glowing recommendation for me to brave the possibility of exposing myself to a Mary Sue and read these books.

I cried, I laughed, I growled in anger, I screamed in fear, I could not stop reading these books until they were done. I read them as I walked to work, coming back on the bus, in the evenings. I tried to read them slowly because I am a fast reader and these are not lengthy books, and I did not want them to end.

These women, these main characters, are extraordinary even amongst their extraordinary brethren. They have funny coloured hair and eyes and are really good at the things they love doing. They are passionate, caring, heroic women who inspire other characters in the world.

They also have flaws. These flaws aren't 'character balancers'. These flaws are not there to make sure the 'Mary Sue Balance' comes out at zero. They are there because these women are not perfect, because no one is perfect, and because these women are sometimes misguided and hurt by things that have happened to them.

No doubt some people might see Katsa and Fire as Mary Sues. I did.

I avoided these books because I didn't want to read Mary Sues, but these books are two of my favourite books. Ever. Not because "It's O.K., Katsa and Fire aren't Mary Sues because they're flawed", or, "It's O.K., Katsa and Fire aren't Mary Sues because all of their power and skills make sense in the setting ". It doesn't matter if they're Mary Sues or not. They are awesome characters. They are awesome women. And they are a joy to read.

This is why I don't want Mary Sues in my life. The fear and disgust of possibly contacting one prevented me from reading books that I love. This is not even going into what that fear and disgust can do to a writer. I'm not going to let those feelings stop me again. I'm going to read what interests me, and if being interested in powerful, mistake-making, passionate women makes me interested in Mary Sues, then my life is better for it.

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* = Graceling, by Kristin Cashore
** = Fire, by Kristin Cashore


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[personal profile] amaresu 2010-04-15 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Coming through on Network.

I am utterly fascinated by this post. I haven't read Fire, but I clearly remember my first reaction to reading the jacket for Graceling and it was, "OMG WANT!" quickly followed by "really can't afford hardcover".

It never once occured to me that Katsa could be a Mary Sue. I mean, now that you've pointed out the reasoning, it's a bit obvious. But it's obvious in the way I only picked up on Alanna fitting the definition of Mary Sue to a T after someone pointed it out.

I'm not sure what my purpose in commenting here is, but I'm just so intrigued by this post.
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[personal profile] indeliblesasha 2010-04-15 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
(I love your icon.)
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[personal profile] amaresu 2010-04-19 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks. It's a quote by [livejournal.com profile] violetsblue.

[personal profile] miss_haitch 2010-04-15 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Cashore-love makes me happy!
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[personal profile] indeliblesasha 2010-04-15 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Brilliant, powerfully written post. I'm loving the backlash against the culture of Mary Sue, lately. When I first came to fandom a Mary Sue was effectively the author self-inserting their fantasy self.

The current "oh, look, female OC, must be a Mary Sue..." definition is aggravating. Insulting. And as you have so eloquently pointed out...limiting.
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[personal profile] psyche29 2010-04-30 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Here from the "Why Yes I Am Awesome" page, and I am so glad you finally read them and loved them!!

I guess I never once thought of them as Mary Sues, but part of that is simply that the physical books I have don't have any pictures on the covers to sway me.